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Ye Olde Magic Kingdom: Past Attractions and Hidden Tributes

by Jill Clinevell Shelton, PassPorter Guest Contributor
Last modified 03-22-2011 > Articles > Walt Disney World > Making Magic  

For many dedicated Disney fans, visiting Walt Disney World has become as much a part of their lives as visiting family or old friends. We travel to "Uncle Walt's" and feel as if we've come home. Most of us have favorite attractions or sights that we can't wait to see as soon as we enter into that magical place. But, what happens when our favorite Magic Kingdom attraction is no longer there?

The Disney Imagineers also have a special place in their hearts for many of the classics that have gone by the wayside, and so, find a way to honor the ancestor in the new attraction. What are these attractions that many of us loved and some never had the opportunity to experience? What sits in their footprint today? How are our old favorites memorialized?

One of the most popular rides in Fantasyland today is The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. Most children today love Pooh and his friends and can't wait to get aboard their "hunny" pot for a trip through the Hundred Acre Wood. But Pooh is relatively new to the neighborhood, only arriving in June 1999. Pooh replaced a classic fan favorite, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride which opened with the park in 1971.

Mr. Toad's Wild Ride was a romp in a roadster driven by the eccentric Mr. Toad. It was based on the book (and Disney cartoons), "The Wind in the Willows". It was not 3-D or even animatronic as Pooh is now, but it did have a twist. When the rider chose the right or left line in which to stand to wait their turn, they also chose their adventure, as there were two tracks and two experiences. However, no matter which track was chosen the adventure always ended the same: a head-on collision with an on-coming train!

Plenty of fans were quite upset when the announcement was made to replace Mr. Toad with Pooh. They staged green shirt sit-ins and wrote letters of protest. The decision was made, however, and Pooh moved in. But, if you look closely as you're riding through The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, you'll see a picture hanging on the wall of Owl's house in which Mr. Toad is handing over a "deed" to Owl. A second portrait has fallen onto the floor of Moley (another character from the Wind in the Willows) and Pooh. And, if you'd like to see and touch a part of Disney history that is no more, you can find one of the original roadsters from Mr. Toad's Wild Ride in the Exposition Hall on Main Street.

Magic Kingdom - A Different View of Cinderella Castle photo
Magic Kingdom - A Different View of Cinderella Castle

Different view of the castle

- photo by runnerrae

Across the way from The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh the imagineers placed the Pooh's Playful Spot (which has since been moved), a soft playground for preschoolers featuring Pooh's tree house and spilling hunny pots. It's hard to imagine now that the Hundred Acre Wood used to be an 11.5 million gallon lagoon! 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea opened to the public in October 1971. It was a submarine ride down to the ocean bottom complete with divers, coral reefs and even a giant squid. Based on the Jules Verne classic novel and the Disney movie, this quickly became a favorite of many visitors. However it was closed in 1994 after 23 years of operations due to maintenance and loading issues. The lagoon remained intact for 10 years and was used as staging for Ariel's Grotto while the old queue was used for the Fantasyland Character Festival. Then, in 2004 the lagoon was drained to make way for Pooh's Playful Spot. Since then, even the usurper Playful Spot has been moved to make way for Fantasyland's new expansion coming in 2011-2012.

Not to miss an opportunity to memorialize such a beloved attraction, the Imagineers hid a tribute to 20,000 Leagues inside the tree house in the new playground. If you squeeze into the doorway of the tree and turn again to face outdoors, you will find a small blue submarine "carved" into the door frame. Additionally, one of the famous submarines has a new home on Disney's Castaway Cay, the private island for Disney Cruise Line guests. Visitors can swim to the Nautilus and explore her once again, but this time in the real ocean!

Another popular Magic Kingdom attraction whose home has a similar but more extensive history is Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin. Who doesn't like spinning through space and zapping targets to defeat the evil Emperor Zurg? But, back in 1972, this Tomorrowland space housed a very different attraction.

If You Had Wings was a whirlwind trip around the world in the comfort of a vehicle similar to the Buzz Lightyear ride minus the laser guns. You passed through scenes showcasing different locales such as the Speed Tunnel through which your vehicle slowly moved, but the films that sped all around you made you feel as if you were truly flying. If You Had Wings lost its sponsorship through Eastern Airlines in 1987 and was changed that same year to If You Could Fly, with new music and no references to Eastern. In 1989 If You Could Fly closed and reopened six months later as Dreamflight, sponsored now by Delta. This time the attraction was completely altered but rode on the same track. Dreamflight remained open for seven years, closing briefly in June 1996 when Delta dropped its sponsorship and reopened as Take Flight. Take Flight ran until January 1998 when it was closed to make way for the new Toy Story attraction. Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin premiered in October of the same year. Buzz makes use of the original track and room structure as well as the speed tunnel. The Imagineers also made use of some whimsical cutout chickens originally located in Dreamflight and Take Flight - the chickens can now be found in the room with the volcano in the Space Ranger Spin.

Tip: Discover the Magic on Video
Let's face it, every performer dreams of being discovered! In the era of You Tube and other online sharing sites, it's easy to become an overnight sensation. We have found this is true of Disney character performers. When the video camera comes out the characters take their performances to a new level. Alice has chased the (invisible) White Rabbit to a rabbit hole in the gardens of the UK. Donald has attempted to take off with our girls to go for a swim (only to have his 'handler' chase him down). Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum have waltzed with the girls. And, best of all, Piglet was filmed giving special pig kisses (sounds) when our youngest presented him with a special drawing! So even if you're not into high tech HD video, use your little quickshot camera (now most have enough video capacity for You Tube). You'll capture some unexpected memories! - tip contributed by Amanda

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A close neighbor to Buzz Lightyear in Tomorrowland is that menacing alien, Stitch, in Stitch's Great Escape which premiered in the Fall of 2004. But, even before the ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter, which opened in 1995, then closed in 2003 to make way for Stitch, there was a long-running staple in the same location for many years.

Flight to the Moon
At the time Flight to the Moon premiered in 1971, it was already outdated as NASA had already succeeded in landing on the moon. It remained open by the same name until 1975 when it was briefly revamped as Mission to Mars with a new destination of the Red Planet. Mission to Mars continued to shuttle guests on quick trips to and from outer space until 1994.

Although, seemingly not as well-loved and missed as other "extinct attractions," Mission to Mars and Flight to the Moon are memorialized in the Tomorrowland Transit Authority
As we remember favorite attractions of the past that now have a new tenant, we also should note that there are a few lesser-known attractions that have simply vanished. Some of these are the Plaza Swan Boats that took guests on an enchanting trip around the waters surrounding the castle, the Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes in which guests and two coon-skin capped cast members paddled around the Rivers of America, and, of course, the Skyway which shuttled guests from Fantasyland to Tomorrowland and back again high above the "World". However, most of our favorite past attractions that are gone today, are not completely forgotten, and if we search hard enough we might notice a special hidden secret just for those of us who remember.

Fantasyland - Mr. Toad's Wild Ride photo
Fantasyland - Mr. Toad's Wild Ride

The exterior of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride - photo by DyanKJ130

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Jill is a former schoolteacher and a stay-at-home mom of two little Disney princesses. She and her family love learning about Disney secrets and history and are currently planning their next trip to Walt Disney World, a Grand Gathering, for later this year.

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Reader Comments:

As you can probably tell I have Disney on the brain and kinda have been reminising bout the good ol days.

Do any of you have memories of doing things that are no longer available at Disney?

One memory that came to mind was in Epcot and going to make ADR's that day. THey had video screens that you talked into to make the ressie with the CM. I thought it was so cool and I remember telling my husband how she could see our just married hats and wondered how they did that...the lady on the screen told me to turn around and she was in the office behind us waving. Yeah I'm not that smart but it was so much fun.

Anyone else?

on February 18, 2009 @ 3:16 pm
I remember the old 20,000 leagues under the sea ride.

     Disneydiana on February 18, 2009 @ 3:31 pm
Where to start? I have so many.

Riding the buses when they were color coded (Blue Flag was FW only) and didn't make so many stops. Now they're crammed too full and make too many stops so I don't enjoy them anymore.

When the busses dropped EVERYONE at the TTC instead of at the MK (this was a good change, but I still won't ride the busses anymore)

Riding the Swan boats, 20k Leagues, Mr Toad and Missin to Mars in the MK

I miss If You Had Wings too but Buzz Lightyear is a good replacement

Seeing the Circlevision in the MK

Seeing the double deckers buses in WS at Epcot

I miss the original Imagination ride, Horizons and World of Motion in FW

Staying at FW and swimming in the Bay Lake/Seven Seas Lagoon area

     CinderAbby on February 18, 2009 @ 3:39 pm
It wasn't a WDW trip until my sister and I went on "If I had Wings" at MK. This was during the days of using tickets to get on attractions and this was a "freebie." I miss Mr. Toad.:(

     MMMD on February 18, 2009 @ 3:45 pm
Delta Dream Flight in the MK where BLY is now.

     GoofEme on February 18, 2009 @ 4:05 pm
The cable car to Fantasyland

     jimmymac on February 18, 2009 @ 4:10 pm
There are a few I miss. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and Mission to Mars were two of my favorite!

     KMB733 on February 18, 2009 @ 4:34 pm
I miss Mr. Toad and the original POTC before it became so "PC". Sorry, but it was a good ride back then. I'm sure it still is, but I liked the original version too.
I also miss Horizons and World of Motion at Epcot. Oh and the Superstar Television I think it was called at MGM. Where they picked people out of the audience and they got to act in TV shows like I Love Lucy and Cheers. That was always fun.

     NicNoc12 on February 18, 2009 @ 4:36 pm
Mr.Toad's Wild Ride :( I loved that one.

     mojjo on February 18, 2009 @ 4:41 pm
I miss the Electrical Parade! And If You Had Wings!

     Colexis Mom on February 18, 2009 @ 7:11 pm
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea......:(

     cdnmickeyfan on February 18, 2009 @ 7:21 pm
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, and a great memory I have is seeing Captain EO with a group of my best buds from High School.

     WDWJAMBA on February 18, 2009 @ 7:40 pm
I miss Mr. Toad's Wild ride. It was my favorite ride. I even wrote letters when i found out they were closing it down.:(

     tylerdylansmom on February 18, 2009 @ 7:49 pm
Wow...let's see....
River Country!!!!!!!!!!!:(
Miss original Pirates of the Carribean
Sky lifts from Tomorrow Land to Haunted Mansion ( gone, right?)
There was a CS near Tom Sawyer's Island that served cold fried chicken , watermelon & real sweet tea:facelick:
World in Motion (the orange-smelling one, right?)
Mr. Toad's Wild ride
20,000 Leagues
River, I have great memories from there!!!!
Though I think most of all...
sitting on my Dad's shoulders watching the night parade!

     jblondie1999 on February 18, 2009 @ 10:12 pm
Mr. Toads Wild Ride, I'm not sure if I'm remembering it from WDW or DL!! I used to go to DL when they had the tickets, The E ticket was all the good rides, Space Mtn, etc.

     Sue M. on February 18, 2009 @ 11:26 pm
Mission To Mars.

The Painted Desert Mining Train(Is that the right name??)

20,000 Leagues under The Sea.

The Submarine ride(AKA the leaky boat ride)

And what was the name of the one where you were

shrunk down and went under a giant microscope???

     scottjs on February 19, 2009 @ 12:12 am
20,000 Leagues, Mr Toad, and If You Had Wings ahhhhh
But I also miss when I USED to be able to ride the teacups with no ill effects!:crazy:

     bitterchickey on February 19, 2009 @ 12:59 am
Sky buckets, Mr. Toad's, Captain EO, like someone else mentioned, the original un-PC POTC. I like the new stuff too, but I do miss the good old days.

     Tink'sMom on February 19, 2009 @ 1:32 am
I still miss 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea. :(

     chezp on February 19, 2009 @ 2:05 am
"If You Had Wings" I still can hear the tune in my head. Also the sky lift that would take you from one side of the park to the other side. The very first Imagination Pavilion and ride.

     Princessdreamer on February 19, 2009 @ 8:12 am
I miss the Electrical Parade too but having seen Spectromagic several times now, it's starting to grow on me. And luckily with the magic of DVD recorders, anytime I want to see the old Electrical parade, I can just pop in a DVD to see it.

     CinderAbby on February 19, 2009 @ 8:21 am
Anybody remember the Mickey Mouse Revue(I think that was the name) I barely remember it as I was really young - i think it went to Japan.

     susan on February 20, 2009 @ 10:39 pm
20,000 Leagues
If You Had Wings
I miss being able to run up and down through Swiss Family Treehouse. Nowadays it's a workout! :p
River Country USA

     mvmcgee on February 20, 2009 @ 11:14 pm
I miss Mr Toad! I also miss Captain EO!

     ilovedisney247 on February 20, 2009 @ 11:20 pm
Mr. Toad, and I have a picture with Dreamfinder and Figment somewhere, I think I only got to go on 20,000 leagues once, I was little then. I do remember, however, getting to go on Splash Mountain when it first opened. I was so excited! I think I was somewhere between 8 and 10 years old at the time. It's crazy how time flies!

     tinkerbell_3 on February 21, 2009 @ 12:54 am
OH! also the old houses in Mickey's Toonland area, I don't remember what it was called back then but I have those pictures too!

     tinkerbell_3 on February 21, 2009 @ 12:55 am
I remember riding Mr Toad all the time when i was lil. That was one of my dad's favs.

20,000 leagues under the sea.

There used to be a lion king puppet show,kinda like The Voyage of Lil mermaid with puppets and clips from the movie, in the building of Mickey's Philar Magic.

There r a whole bunch of shows that closed down. One was in Epcot featuring all the characters while eating. Then the characters came to ya after the show.

I also miss some show in Mk that used to be in a playhouse that featured Mickey, Tales Spin, Rescue Rangers, Duck Tales, and i think Care Bears.

That is just a few things that i can remember.

     saxgirl2003 on February 21, 2009 @ 10:39 am
Mickey's Birthdayland- now Toontown Fair. They served birthday cupcakes with birthday napkins at the food cart.
Odessey Restaurant at EPCOT, that was the one with the free character show.
World of Motion at EPCOT
Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and lemonade at Aunt Pollys on Tom Sawyer Island.
and most of all, staying at the deluxe resorts for $150. at night!

     SuzieBC on February 21, 2009 @ 2:08 pm
I have a few -
The coupons needed for the rides
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
While waiting for the monorail at the Polynesian, Baloo came up behind my Dad and tapped him on the shoulder. It surprised my Dad and he turned around ready to punch Baloo!! I'm not sure why, but it always stuck in my mind.

     travismom on February 22, 2009 @ 3:58 pm
DH would say 20,000 Leagues. He was crushed that one was gone by the time we took our first trp as a family.

I miss River Country and Discovery Island. :mad: I have many fond memories from my childhood at both of them.

The Tapestry of Dreams parade at Epcot. Oh, how I miss that one. Something about that parade always reduced me to tears. Loved those great, big drums. I keep hoping that one day they will bring a form of it back. Epcot needs a parade.

The Monster Sound Show (or whatever it was called) at MGM with Chevy Chase and Martin Short. I was picked not once, but twice to do the sound effects in that one. It was so much fun. And I was really terrible about making my assigned noises at the right time. smiley for :D

And while it hasn't been gone that long, we miss the Concourse Steakhouse. We had a great meal there a few years ago on DH's birthday and had so much fun watching DD get excited about the monorail going by above us. EVERY SINGLE TIME it went by us.

Ahhh, the good old days.

     Nala on February 22, 2009 @ 4:35 pm
MK 1975....On my Dad's shoulders watching the parade!

I was on a trip with my daycare one summer in the 70s and stayed at the campgrounds. They had a show every night with characters and CMs. One that sticks out was a skit talking about littering. Chip and Dale were there and the CMs kept asking everyone what exactly trash was. Well, Chip and Dale were picking different objects up from around the stage to throw in the trash.....Dale came over and picked me up and started to throw me in the trash can. After the crowd convinced him I wasn't trash...took him awhile & I could here him laughing under that costume..... then he put me on stage and I helped finish the skit. Even received a cool button and bag. Afterwards, we always had smores around a bonfire.

     jblondie1999 on February 23, 2009 @ 7:28 pm
I still sing he "If You Had Wings" song and my kids think I'm nuts!! I LOVED that ride!
I also miss the skyway...I know, not very exciting but it was a fun way to get from Fantasyland to Tomorrowland and sort of relaxing...I remember when we stayed at the Contempoorary one year my borther and sister and I tried to do the "I can see my "house" from here" while on it (I don't remember if we actually saw it!!!)

     5SOXFNZ on February 24, 2009 @ 11:09 am
Figaro fries! The real ones, not the ones they have now.
Alien Encounter - I loved this thing
Spectromagic, especially the music.

     Mares75 on February 26, 2009 @ 11:02 am
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, Alien Encounters, and I loved Body Wars simulator ride in the Wonders of Life pavilion.smiley for :cool:

     karadisney on February 26, 2009 @ 8:54 pm
I remember the sky cars that went accross the park. My mom stuck my dad and I in one when we were arguing on one trip when I was a teenager. By the time we met up with her and my brothers in the other car we were talking again. smiley for :)

     dnbaci on March 2, 2009 @ 4:38 pm
I remember those "fruit sippers" that looked like the fruit you were drinking..

     edwardsfire on March 6, 2009 @ 11:38 pm
Do they still have the aliens that are contorsionists in Epcot? I for the life of me can't remember their name. Started with a "K" I think.

     materstater on March 6, 2009 @ 11:43 pm

     CinderAbby on March 7, 2009 @ 7:05 am
CinderAbby;2619418 >I remember seeing these. And I always wanted one too when I saw it. Talk about attractive packages for kids.

Im kinda suprised they still dont use them, maybe there was alot of waste considering they were plastic...:confused:

     edwardsfire on March 7, 2009 @ 9:58 am
Im kinda suprised they still dont use them, maybe there was alot of waste considering they were plastic

It could be that but my own personal opinion is that soda / bottled water came on to the market really strong and just replaced it. If you think about it, how many places (theme / amusement park wise) can you actually get juice anymore as you're walking around?

     CinderAbby on March 8, 2009 @ 9:21 am
materstater;2619227 >Do they still have the aliens that are contorsionists in Epcot? I for the life of me can't remember their name. Started with a "K" I think.

I think they were called the Kristos if we're thinking of the same group. They wore skin-tight silver costumes. I remember DS commenting when he saw them about he could tell the boys from the girls, even in costume. I think they were cut a few years ago.

I really miss so much of the live entertainment, especially Future Corps. Ironically, I was reading the biography of an ex-WDW musician who'd been there from 1982-1990. Sadly, I couldn't even recognize the 2 bands he'd been in. He was probably a victim of the many cuts in live entertainment over the years.

     Simba's Mom on March 8, 2009 @ 1:08 pm
I Miss:
Horizons...what a shame it's gone.
World of Motion (I love Test Track, but wish they could have both)
20,000 Leagues
Broadway at the Top dinner show (performed at Top of the World at the Calli Grill)
Mickey's Revue
Main Street Electric Parade (although I do love Spectromagic)
the original Journey into Imagination (hated version 2..still don't like version 3)
Kitchen Kabaret (wasn't crazy about 2nd version/Food Rocks)
Magic Journeys (hated it's replacement..Captain EO..and liked it better than current HISTK)
Water Skiing Shows on 7 Seas Lagoon/Bay Lake
Epcot Marching Band (cannot remember their name right at this moment)

Don't Miss:
Mission to Mars
Skylydescope (air show over Epcot's World Showcase)
Circus Acts at Epcot (what were they thinking!!?)

Also...I remember my early trips when the Contemporary, the Poly and the Golf Resort (which became the Disney Inn..and now Shades of Green) were the only resorts on property. Back then, because of their newness, they were SPOTLESS and the grounds kept in meticulous order (kinda sad to see that they don't keep the Poly up like they used to). Also, you needed to make your reservations for those resorts well over a year in advance or you were out of luck!

     twinsljo on June 3, 2009 @ 2:59 pm
When we went during the late 80's I was only about 7, so I don't remember much, but I do remember Captain Eo being hilarious. :P Sorry, child of that time!

     Muffinator on June 3, 2009 @ 3:11 pm
I miss:
20,000 Leagues under the Sea
World of Motion
Kitchen Kabaret
Mission to Mars
Alien Encounter

     KMB733 on June 3, 2009 @ 3:42 pm
OH! I forgot, I miss the real Living Seas. When it wasn't about Nemo.

     Muffinator on June 3, 2009 @ 4:06 pm
the original Journey into Imagination (I loved figment when I was little)
Kitchen Kabaret
Toads wild ride (it was terrible, but I liked it)

     suzq62982 on June 3, 2009 @ 4:13 pm
From the MK, I miss

Mr Toad
20000 Leagues
If you had Wings
Original Tiki Room
The Canoes and the Mike Fink Keel boats

From Epcot:

Original Imagination
World of Motion

     CinderAbby on June 3, 2009 @ 4:25 pm
20,000 Leagues, Mr. Toad, original Tikki room, Mike Fink or Finn Keel boats, Tomorrowland skyway.

     Ceara's mawmaw on June 3, 2009 @ 4:31 pm
I miss River Country. That place was the best! I grew up reading Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn and for a little kid, it felt like you really were at the ol' swimmin' hole!

     DisneyBri on June 3, 2009 @ 5:07 pm
We didn't start going until 2000, but didn't they used to have a penny arcade on Main St? That would be cool if it were still there!

     Griffin on June 3, 2009 @ 5:20 pm
I miss the Main St. Electrical Parade and If You Had Wings (Eastern Airlines). I can get both those songs stuck in my head!! :love:

     Colexis Mom on June 3, 2009 @ 5:23 pm
Mr. Toad and Horizons. Those were two of my favorites.

     disney_duke on June 3, 2009 @ 5:25 pm
I enjoyed 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, and If You Had Wings. I also liked Kitchen Kabaret (I think my parent's still have a small Kitchen Kabaret souvenir cup they bought for me). I always liked Cranium Command too (although I guess that is still there just not opened very often.) We have some great pictures from River Country too, but I have never been a big waterpark person.
And do you remember those HUGE, Doll-like characters that walked around Epcot when it first opened? They were over 7 feet tall, dressed in the clothes from each country and they were GIANT. smiley for :eek: I don't think I miss them. I remember being slightly scared of them as a child because they had such big heads and were so much taller than me!

     my2twinboys on June 3, 2009 @ 5:39 pm
I miss Future Corps (they didn't march in Epcot, just a brass band), Melvin the Moose character breakfast w/kazoos, Epcot characters wearing silver lame', seeing characters at random, and the character breakfast on the Riverboat at DTD (I think that's Fulton's now).

     Simba's Mom on June 3, 2009 @ 5:42 pm
Oh the penny arcade!! I loved that place!!
I so miss If you Had Wings! (Still sing the song!!)
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
Sky way
The awesomely HUGE arcade at the Contemporary.

And I, for one, completely miss when the characters would just randomly show up, not the scheduled appearences in Toontown they have now! Just random meandering around the lands!

     5SOXFNZ on June 3, 2009 @ 5:46 pm
I miss...
The original Living Seas pavilion. I was trying to describe it to my DD's just last week. It was AWESOME!
20,000 leauges
world of motion
original Imagination
the reservation system behind spaceship earth

     coasties on June 3, 2009 @ 6:03 pm
character breakfast on the Riverboat at DTD (I think that's Fulton's now).

While I don't exactly miss it, we did this too. Back then it was the Empress Lily

     CinderAbby on June 3, 2009 @ 7:03 pm
The things I miss most are 20,000 Leagues and World of Motion. :(

     chezp on June 4, 2009 @ 1:46 am
I would say I miss in the MK, If you had wings, 20,000 Leagues, the skyride and the magic shop on Main Street. In "Epcot Center" I miss the large three pronged lucite "statue" they had in front of Spaceship Earth, World of Motion, Horizons, the original El rio del tiempo boat ride in Mexico and the original Listen to the Land boat ride (we still sing the song when going thru!). Also miss going to River Country!

     kewbrickny on June 4, 2009 @ 12:44 pm
Speaking of River Country, I have to laugh at the thought of this:

They do not allow swimming in Bay Lake (or any of their real or "man made" waters) due to levels of bacteria. Well, I swam in that water (Bay Lake and the Seven Seas Lagoon at the Poly) so many times back then. I would think that even back then, there were levels of bacteria as well...but I survived. I'm assuming we were allowed to swim in those places because no one knew about bacteria in the lakes back then?

     twinsljo on June 4, 2009 @ 2:53 pm
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
Cranium Command
The Original Figment
immaculate resorts / parks

     jimmymac on June 4, 2009 @ 2:58 pm

Speaking of River Country, I have to laugh at the thought of this:

They do not allow swimming in Bay Lake (or any of their real or "man made" waters) due to levels of bacteria. Well, I swam in that water (Bay Lake and the Seven Seas Lagoon at the Poly) so many times back then. I would think that even back then, there were levels of bacteria as well...but I survived. I'm assuming we were allowed to swim in those places because no one knew about bacteria in the lakes back then?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers this. There was a thread a couple years ago about this and the people on it (maybe those people aren't here anymore) basically told me I was crazy. That there was never any swimming, at all, ever allowed in Bay Lake or Seven Seas Lagoon. As you can see from my previous trips, we used to stay at FW and until a pool was built (late 80's early 90's) the only place to swim was at the beach/marina - and it was manned with life guards BTW (you don't pay life guards to keep people OUT of the water). I personally think it was because Disney found alligators in the waterways of FW (which either flows to or from Bay Lake and Seven Seas Lagoon) that the swimming was stopped. IMO, it has nothing to do with bacteria levels.

     CinderAbby on June 4, 2009 @ 4:08 pm
World of Motion
Skyway in MK

and most of all

Tapestry of Dreams parade in EPCOT

     Grammy Grumpy on June 5, 2009 @ 12:27 am
Sorry I just started going to WDW!

But from Disneyland I miss---

The Great Painted Desert Train Ride.

The Submarine Ride.

The Aerial Tranway(Not sure of the proper name)

     scottjs on June 5, 2009 @ 12:33 am
CinderAbby;2787561 >I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers this. There was a thread a couple years ago about this and the people on it (maybe those people aren't here anymore) basically told me I was crazy. That there was never any swimming, at all, ever allowed in Bay Lake or Seven Seas Lagoon. As you can see from my previous trips, we used to stay at FW and until a pool was built (late 80's early 90's) the only place to swim was at the beach/marina - and it was manned with life guards BTW (you don't pay life guards to keep people OUT of the water). I personally think it was because Disney found alligators in the waterways of FW (which either flows to or from Bay Lake and Seven Seas Lagoon) that the swimming was stopped. IMO, it has nothing to do with bacteria levels.

A alligator would sure get me to stop doing stuff really quick!!!!

     scottjs on June 5, 2009 @ 12:35 am
I miss....20,000 leagues, Mr Toad's. I got to ride 20,000 the last yr they had it.

     tracie52001 on June 5, 2009 @ 8:34 am
20000 Leagues
If you had Wings
Original Tiki Room

I also miss the Coral Isle Cafe at the Poly (now Kona Cafe) as that was our first meal every trip when I was a kid. I miss swimming in Bay Lake and Seven Seas Lagoon, River Country, and the movies they used to show at the Contemporary.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers this. There was a thread a couple years ago about this and the people on it (maybe those people aren't here anymore) basically told me I was crazy. That there was never any swimming, at all, ever allowed in Bay Lake or Seven Seas Lagoon.

Yeah, that's not true. I have pictures of my brother and I swimming in Bay Lake and the Lagoon when we were young.

     saremca on June 5, 2009 @ 9:09 am
CinderAbby;2787561 >I personally think it was because Disney found alligators in the waterways of FW (which either flows to or from Bay Lake and Seven Seas Lagoon) that the swimming was stopped. IMO, it has nothing to do with bacteria levels.

Yikes..alligators..I didn't even think of that, but it makes sense. We used to swim at Water Country, which was literally right in Bay Lake (you had to go to FW to access it)...the slides and all the fun contraptions would land you right into Bay Lake itself...I cannot imagine an alligator waiting for me at the bottom of the slide ! smiley for :eek:LOL!

     twinsljo on June 5, 2009 @ 9:13 am
If you had Wings
River Country

Mr. Toad

Original Tiki Room

Swimming on the Beach at Polynesian( which I did as a kid)

* I also wanted to add that my dad said he used to pay 99 dollars a night for a room facing MK back then so I miss those prices so I could stay there again.

Kitchen Kabert ( I loved the stuffed Broccoli character they sold in Epcot)

Original Sunshine Seasons Food Court

World of Motion

     sophierushmom on June 5, 2009 @ 9:26 am
In MK:

Original Tiki Room

20,000 Leagues

Main Street Electric Parade

The Skyway

If You Had Wings

In Epcot:

I'm still mourning the loss of Journey Into Imagination and the Original Living Seas.

At the Contemporary:

The Pueblo Room - one of the original character meals, table service that served breakfast (the original stuffed french toast, before Tonga Toast) lunch and dinner (steakhouse). Became part of Chef Mickey's

At the Poly:

The original Luau on the beach, before the cove was built and Mickey's Tropical Revue after that.

     Stripes on June 5, 2009 @ 10:23 am
The Original Journey into Imagination
Mr. Toad (my absolute favorite)
20,000 leagues under the sea
The Kitchen Cabaret

     tylerdylansmom on June 5, 2009 @ 10:33 am
I am confused.

Isn't there a Mr Toad left in one of the parks???

     scottjs on June 5, 2009 @ 5:40 pm
Isn't there a Mr Toad left in one of the parks

Winnie the Pooh is where Mr Toad used to be in WDW so Mr Toad must be in Disneyland.

     CinderAbby on June 5, 2009 @ 5:41 pm
Kristos, meeting dreamfinder and figment in person (figment sat on dreamfinders arms), the lion king puppet show where philharmagic is now, world of motion, how on the map of mgm studios the hub right by the movie ride made a mickey, that was before they put in the hat.

     materstater on June 5, 2009 @ 5:53 pm
Definitely miss Mr. Toad's Wild Ride and the original Tiki Room. Don't miss 20,000 Leagues... I found that boring.

     Peanut_mommy on June 5, 2009 @ 6:12 pm
Really Miss:
River Country! (I'm not a big thrill water park goer)
Discovery Island - it was a really nice break from the parks and resorts!
Actually being able to swim in the lakes - especially at Fort Wilderness
Horizons & World of Motion
Monster Sound Show at DHS (Oh, and I hate the name DHS - I still say MGM!)
CBR's ship themed restaurant (What was the name??????) that I never got to eat at!
The old Imagination ride and building

Don't Like:
I really hate those big stones with the family pictures on them at EPCOT's entrance.
I absolutely hated the Castle when it was a pink birthday cake!
Journey into Imagination's play/hands on area as you come off the ride

     Mary_Maas on June 6, 2009 @ 9:55 pm
sophierushmom;2788676 > If you had Wings
* I also wanted to add that my dad said he used to pay 99 dollars a night for a room facing MK back then so I miss those prices so I could stay there again.

Yup..I remember those prices that were around $100 per night or so. Not to mention, you had to book the Poly or the Contemporary or the Golf Resort (now Shades of Green) well beyond a year in advance as those were the only Disney resorts back then. Also, the Poly and the Contemporary never ever advertised an all inclusive package plan called "The World Adventure Plan". It included EVERYTHING!!! 3 table service meals at ANY restaurant within WDW, including the Empress Room on the Empress Lilly (now Fulton's), your hotel accommodations, unlimited theme park admission for length of stay, all the water craft and recreation you wanted for as long as you wanted, River Country, Discovery Island, all character meals and dinner shows..the sky was the limit. You had to ask for it yourself, the reservationists wouldn't bring it up unless you did for some reason. And outside Travel agents never even heard of could only get it by calling the Poly or Contemporary directly. We used it twice and it was by far the best vacations we ever had (in the mid 80's).

     twinsljo on June 6, 2009 @ 10:40 pm
I miss the Mickey Mania parade. I loved it, and went absolutely crazy every time I got to see it (thus my moniker for this message board!) For those of you who really miss Mr Toad as well as Main St Electrical Parade, I really recommend planning a trip to Disneyland and Calif Adv.....I had never been there until we moved to Tucson 10 years ago. Going there in '01 really changed my viewpoint of WDW, which I love, but Disneyland has the clear and present mark of Walt Disney himself ALL over it...smiley for :)

     mickey nut on June 7, 2009 @ 10:45 pm
These are the things I really miss!
Tapestry of Dreams
Skyway "buckets" at the MK
River Country
Discovery Island

     Luvsun on June 8, 2009 @ 10:06 am
Only did MK in the 70s and 80s.

I miss 20,000 Leagues under the Sea
I miss the Skyway
I miss the Circlevision shows that was in Tomorrowland (was an airline thing)

But, the park is way better now than it was then... so I'm happy to give these things up for Splash Mountain and BTMRR and Buzz Lightyear.

     HiddenMickey on June 8, 2009 @ 12:33 pm
I very much miss Mr Toad's Wild Ride !

     Carousel96 on June 8, 2009 @ 4:52 pm
I miss...

Mr. Toad

20,000 Leagues

Main Street Electrical Parade

River Country

I like the Winnie the Pooh ride, but there was just something about Mr. Toad's Wild Ride!

     shadowpup on June 9, 2009 @ 8:52 am
I miss:
At MK- the orginal tiki room and the Main Stree Electric parade and (please don't shoot me) the Fantasy in the Sky fireworks.
At EPCOT- the World of Motion, even though I love test Track, the orginal Journey into Imagination and Horizons.

     clio on June 15, 2009 @ 12:24 pm
I miss 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea....I was afraid to get on it when I was little because I didn't want to stick my face in the water :tongue:. Once I rode it, I loved it.

I miss the "original" Space Mountain, when you couldn't see anything but the glow of other cars as they passed.

     clogva1 on June 15, 2009 @ 4:26 pm
Mr. Toad definitely is the top of my list. I can't remember what they were called, but the little houses that were supposed to belong to the characters. Not like Mickey or Minnie's House now in Toontown, the houses were so small where I being 5 years old even had to crouch to fit in the doorway. You couldn't go in them, but they were cute. And 20,000 leagues.

     Wolfy6688 on June 15, 2009 @ 10:51 pm
My first 2 trips to MK were in 1975 and 1976 so a lot of the now defunct attractions from that time are the ones I miss most:
If You Had Wings (can still hear the theme song and picture the birds flying, as well as the hula dancers from Hawaii; reminded me of the opening to Hawaii 5-0. I also remember the "check in counter" in the queue area with the list of destinations that Eastern Airlines flew. It was one of the few rides I wasn't afraid of as a child.
The Skyway
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
20,000 Leagues Under The Sea
admittedly, the last 2 terrified me at the time, but I'd love to be able to ride them again now as an adult.
America The Beautiful Circlevision 360 film; I remember the firetruck racing down the hills of San Francisco. If I have the title of this one wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me. :o

Horizons (I honestly don't remember riding this even though I know I did; wish I could ride one more time)
World of Motion
Communicore I remember AT&T having a neat display about sending messages here. At least I think it was here rather than SSE.
The original Figment and Dreamfinder w/ that cool neon rainbow tunnel.

     elbug10 on June 16, 2009 @ 12:28 am
Another vote for 20,000 Leagues!

     KLBV on June 17, 2009 @ 11:18 am
I remember the firetruck! I was on my dad's shoulders and everyone in the room leaned the same direction when it turned...followed by a lot of laughter.

     clogva1 on June 17, 2009 @ 11:22 am
scottjs;2789662 >I am confused.

Isn't there a Mr Toad left in one of the parks???

While the ride is gone, Mr. Toad now resides in the pet cemetery by Haunted Mansion...

     LizardCop on June 18, 2009 @ 9:16 am
Yes Mr. Toad's Wild Ride is in Disneyland still

     materstater on June 18, 2009 @ 10:03 am
I miss World of Motion (although I do enjoy Test Track); Skyway; 20,000 Leagues; and I did like Captain EO. I also loved the old Living Seas, before Nemo and Friends took over. And most definitely, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.

     sweetyface77 on June 18, 2009 @ 12:05 pm
We went the year before Epcot Center (as it was first known) opened. I remember watching a film about it somewhere on Main Street and thinking wow that sounds pretty neat. I can't remember exactly where it was though. I also miss:

20000 Leagues
Tomorrowland Skyway
If You Had Wings
The Living Seas
World of Motion

I do not miss:
3 hour wait times for Spaceship Earth

     mvmcgee on June 18, 2009 @ 6:19 pm
mvmcgee;2810817 >We went the year before Epcot Center (as it was first known) opened. I remember watching a film about it somewhere on Main Street and thinking wow that sounds pretty neat. I can't remember exactly where it was though. ...

There was a movie theater on Main Street USA called The Main Street Theater where they showed a movie about Walt Disney.. I think it may have been called "The Walt Disney Story". Anyhow, I think this is where they may have shown this film about Epcot at one point, but maybe I'm wrong.

     twinsljo on June 18, 2009 @ 10:46 pm
Along with all the things previously mentioned, I miss the train and trams at Fort Wilderness (now they just have buses). I also miss Discovery Island- my kids loved to walk the paths there because it was so cool and peaceful. Most of all I miss the old main street where the shops weren't just Disney merchandise. I liked the theater, the arcade, the "newstand" (where they sold cards and Disney books).

     SuzieBC on June 24, 2009 @ 4:29 pm
I haven't heard much from people about what they DON'T miss. I don't miss always having to wait for rides, I think Fast Pass was Disney's best discovery. I also don't miss the buses only going to the TT&TC, then everyone having to take either the boat or monorail to the MK. Remember before the bus depots right at the MK?

However, I do miss when the World Showcase opened at 9:00-all of Epcot opened at the same time. We'd run over to France and eat a very healthy breakfast(hey, it's vacation) of Napoleons and soda.

     Simba's Mom on June 24, 2009 @ 4:58 pm
I remember standing and watching a woman dipping candles and carving curls into the side of the candles. When she made the cut into the candle it would be a different colour than the outside of the candle. magic...

A play structure at the marketplace that had wood chips covering the ground under it.

An ice cream store at the marketplace called Borden's ( i think) or maybe sara lee? I had a cherry turnover.

a toy store that had a train track running around at ceiling height. I think the toy store had 2 floors or a mezzanine. my mom would buy playmobil there because we couldn't get it at home.

I still love going to DTD but I wish it had more of a mix of products.

     ricecakes on July 5, 2009 @ 7:07 am
I really miss the original Tiki room.

     lukesmom on July 6, 2009 @ 10:41 pm
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